Bruce Arians said to Antonio Brown in October 2020: "He messed up once and he is gone."-ProFootballTalk

2021-12-08 11:57:03 By : Mr. QiJie Xu

So, after receiver Antonio Brown was suspended for three games for submitting a fake vaccination card, what will the Pirates do with him?

If any of the various sports books set odds, "absolutely nothing" would be -275.

They want him. They need him. When he plays, they will be better. In addition, Tom Brady will never tolerate the decision to lay off him, not now.

Of course, this is not the standard set by the team when Brown signed him after being suspended for eight games in 2020 for violating the league's personal conduct policy. As coach Bruce Arians told Peter King about Brown at the time, "He messed up once and he's gone."

Okay, coach, Brown messed up once. He has messed up things. Will he disappear?

Next time he faces a reporter, it will be interesting to see if Arians will get this question from the reporter. He is likely to find a way to solve this problem and explain that when Brown never played for the team, he said what he said, and for 14 months after his arrival, he has been a model citizen. Yada Yada Yada.

Yes, he has always been a model citizen. Of course, except when he lied about his vaccination status and inevitably endangered the health of people like Arians, three-time cancer survivor and 83-year-old offensive consultant Tom Moore.

When it comes to talented players who are considered critical to their careers, coaches rarely take a principled stand. If Brown ranks sixth on the depth chart, he will leave. But they know what he can do, they know what he means to the team. For this reason, Arians will say whatever he has to say to deal with any questions he might have about "he messed up once, he's gone" before going back to trying to win another super In the bowl’s task, this always takes precedence over principles. Even though the principles in question may actually be a matter of life and death.

Lost respect for Tom Brady. Obviously, this man doesn't care about the character around him. It is shameful to require management to sign a well-known garbage bag like this man.

Any bets this is not Brown's last mistake in the future?

I think we already know that TB12 is hosting this show there.

Let us be real. Your tolerance is directly proportional to your skills. They will tolerate him because he is still valuable to the team. Think that if he is not one of the best players in the league, will Green Bay endure the nonsense of AR in the past year?

After a tragic 45 years of existence, Suckanneers only cares about winning. They cannot release Brown.

Isn't it easier to get a vaccine than to get a fake vaccine card?

Yes, Bruce. When seeing the tears in Brady's eyes, Brown would not let go.

Billichick abandoned Brown after a mess. Arians wrapped him in a swaddle and played stupid several times.

Aries speaks with a crossed tongue.

Knowledge learned? Never believe a syllable the coach tells you. Nick Saban, Brian Kelly, Bruce Arians, etc.

They are not honorable people.

Arians is a talkative. He always uses exaggeration. A few days ago, he beat his own defense for the media: "No one can run on us!" Because of his tendency to brag and exaggerate, you can't really believe his words in any absolute sense.

Honesty is no longer valuable.

If any of us lied to our employer, we would leave. Brown should be no different.

It can definitely be life or death. My ex-wife lost her sister because she didn't believe in vaccines. Talk to your doctor. Listen to them.

Whether it's Brown, Rogers, or any high-profile athlete who messed up, we all know that as long as they bring victory, the team will ignore it.

Aries is a wind sock. He likes to listen to himself and be tough. This is when we see if there is a spine behind his words.

Bond Lake says: December 3, 2021 at 10:01 AM

They are not honorable people. ———————————————————— Brady is not glorious. He will not allow it.

I am curious if he will be prosecuted. This should be considered a major event.

Patriot fans are here! I took root for Bucs last year (like many others), but my God. There is nothing to like about anyone in Tampa right now. "Win at all costs" is a vulgar mentality.

Lying Rogers got zero suspension in violation of the agreement. What Brown did was a federal crime. He got a sad symbolic 3 game suspension. Add these two things to about a dozen COVID-19 infections or exposure every week. You have an NFL more. Care about how your sock looks so it does do business in a safe and professional way. Goodall is at fault, he is a clown. We need to see the FBI prosecuting the criminal scammer Brown no longer claps the wrist or special lies Rogers treats us tired of talking to both sides of the NFL.

It's ok. He will come back and they will win another ring.

It's time for Arians' politicians to come forward and explain why he didn't plan to chop off someone who should have the last chance. All those tough talks are nothing but empty words.

Arians is clearly a BS graduate of Rex Ryan College. Big talk, but despite him, the team won, not because of him.

tonyzendejas says: December 3, 2021 at 10:11 AM

Patriot fans are here! I took root for Bucs last year (like many others), but my God. There is nothing to like about anyone in Tampa right now. "Win at all costs" is a vulgar mentality. ________________________________

Really, buddy? If that's not the pot called the kettle black!

Where are the criminal charges?

aaronrodgers618 said: December 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM If any of us lied to our employer, we would leave. Brown should be no different.

——————- Kraft and Belichick were torn up for the rest of the year because they made the decision immediately, instead of "giving him a chance" or "letting things happen."

Tom Brady is the coach and quarterback of this team.

He is now a friend of team owner Tom Brady. So nothing will be done.

Brady will call AB. Not Bruce or ownership.

Wow, Brown really makes the Arius look like a fool. Making your coach look like an idiot will not give you extra playing time. Of course I hope Arians doesn't mind being weakened by others. Integrity seems to be a trait that only a handful of NFL players and coaches possess.

Belichick helped Brady take him to NE. But BB uses hooks much faster, and it is really not suitable for group discussions. He lied directly to coaches and teammates for personal gain. I believe that all players who admit to being vaccinated regardless of their personal opinions will welcome him back with open arms.

Rogers lied about the real problem here and the elephant in the room, and basically got nothing. Brown lied and won three games. The problem still comes down to vaccination, and both lied.

How is this different from what Aaron Rogers did? Rogers was not suspended. Both Total BS should be suspended to explain the problem. If there is no punishment, there are still rules for the idea. The prisoner is running to the shelter! ! !

Arians knew very well that he was not the only one who lied about this matter. Therefore, it is inappropriate to reduce him to a timeout.

Brown is now on a double secret probation period!

tonyzendejas said: 10:11 AM on December 3rd, 2021 Patriot fans are here! I took root for Bucs last year (like many others), but my God. There is nothing to like about anyone in Tampa right now. "Win at all costs" is a vulgar mentality. _____________________

Sorry, if you support Tampa, you are not a Patriots fan.

I think Arians might use his favorite mantra "don't take risks, no cookies" to answer every question about Brown and the vaccine card. Do this 6-7 times, just like Bill and his "We are going to Cincinnati", the media will not ask again. Embrace the crazy old guy Carbrus...I think this is the only game you have at this distance.

Get vaccines and all available boosters. These five shots won't kill you. Coronavirus will. Believe in science and get vaccinated immediately.

Brown is a clown. Dude was caught on the spot and rushed to the nearest Walgreens to get the vaccine.

The bigger story here is that Tom Moore is still a coach. I don't know he is still alive.

Suspension for 3 games is again a fucking joke. Goodall did a mistake. He gave the NFL a huge black eye. This does not require him to prove that the NFL is not that serious. They only care about money and once again show us their true identity. It's true that two people in my circle died of COVID-19. This is not a joke like the NFL. Although we as a society are working hard to stay safe, Brown violated an important federal law, but they see it as a minor incident of Diva A. Rodgers shame to Goodall and all deniers at the top of the list. .

Sadly, this won’t be the last time this naive heroine has been suspended under PCP

If the team believes that joining the roster will help them win, they will sign the incarnation of the devil.

Brown is going to screw it up again. Count on it. This is his hard-wired method. He is an adult, and he shouldn't go to Brady for protection every time he gets into trouble, it's very common. If anything else happens to Brown, I hope Bruce Arians sticks to his words. I would even say that if Brown lets himself be kicked out of the team, Brady will not become a pirate next year. Although he wants to be Brown's nanny, this should not be allowed. It sent wrong information to other members of the team

Be the one you can afford.

Aries will redefine "disappearance". "Brown is gone, three games!"

nite2al said: December 3, 2021 at 10:22 am tonyzendejas said: December 3, 2021 at 10:11 am

Patriot fans are here! I took root for Bucs last year (like many others), but my God. There is nothing to like about anyone in Tampa right now. "Win at all costs" is a vulgar mentality. ________________________________

Really, buddy? If that's not the pot called the kettle black!

Yes, really. Pats has never been a "win at all costs" action, the coach/ownership tolerates being cheated by star players and makes them look like fools. Brown himself was waived by the Patriots in his first off-court incident 10 days after signing. Hernandez was laid off on the day his legal issues were exposed.

For a long time, the Patriots have better running and better coaches than any other team, which has long been proven. This is not "winning at all costs"...this is just "winning".

"Of course, this is not the standard that the team set for Brown when he was banned for eight games in 2020 for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. As coach Bruce Arians told Peter King about Brown at the time. ," He messed up once and he was gone. "————— Talking about reaching. Arians is obviously talking about that season, because this is the entire contract for the Browns, because he did not mess up on time until the time he left was over 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Arians and Bucs showed that they had no scruples when they signed Brady-this is a proven multiple cheating. So why did they release Brown? If he can help them win, that's the most important thing.

Arian won't cut him? File it under Surprising Things.

73unit75 said: How is this different from what Aaron Rogers did? Rogers was not suspended. Both Total BS should be suspended to explain the problem. If there is no punishment, there are still rules for the idea. The prisoner is running to the shelter! ! !

It is one thing to say something misleading at a press conference. For you and everyone else, lies are meant to get people out of his bondage and ask questions about things they usually don’t have the right to know. As long as he declares his identity honestly to his employer.

For AB, he gave the forged documents to his employer. He lied to them about his identity-like saying you have a PhD. When you just graduated from high school.

Be angry as you want, but forgery is a crime, and misleading press conferences are standard practice for many people. Have you ever heard a politician speak?

result? For a talented player? no way!

73unit75 said: What is the difference between this and what Aaron Rogers did at 10:34 AM on December 3, 2021? Rogers was not suspended. Both Total BS should be suspended to explain the problem. If there is no punishment, there are still rules for the idea. The prisoner is running to the shelter! ! !

The difference is that what Brown did is illegal and a felony. What Rogers did was stupid, but not illegal.

Reading all these comments allows me to see the other side of the argument.

If this is a 5-string catcher, or a player in a practice class, will everyone’s beliefs be so passionate and acrimonious that they need to "learn" or "set an example"?

I believe most comments will be like, "Who cares? He won't make a difference anyway."

It's just that these are good players and they are likely to have or will beat your favorite team, so everyone is so "angry" and demanding the greatest punishment for them.

Violation of the conduct policy again, repeat offense, the last suspension was 8 weeks, shouldn’t it be a year now?

Ralph Waldo Emerson famously and correctly said: "Stupid consistency is the goblin in the little head." Who cares what Arians said more than a year ago? He reserved the right to be smarter today than then. The pretended anger and the attempt to get Arians to comply with his "remarks" about Brown are the epitome of Emerson's observation.

Kicked AB out of the team after messing up, a major mistake< There is a chance to win back 2 Super Bowls with the new AB in 2 months. It is good and fresh in the playoffs...

If anyone is interested in buying this bridge that I have to sell in San Francisco, please let me know.

Bruce, your promise in 2020, he is not old enough after a mess.

Fraud—A person or thing that aims to deceive others, usually through unreasonable claims or perceptions of achievement or quality.

Brown cheated his team and teammates. The act of completely violating trust completely satisfies another mess-up request for losing a job.

OBTW-I hope he will be fully prosecuted in the fullest scope of the law.

Arians meant that if Brown messed up, he would leave. That was just last season.

AB didn't mess up. He is fighting against tyranny. This was imposed on him, as did Rogers and Cousins, and no one else would endure a great reset.

Let him rest, this is before he checks with Tom.

All you need is a reporter to ask him this question at his press conference.

When asked about Brown's feelings about being released for violating NFL rules, TB12 replied: "Disappointed."

The coalition ignores the element of crime by using terms like "covid agreement." He illegally obtained and used a fake vaccination card. Normally, the alliance will wait for the criminal investigation to end before taking action. The team can take its own actions, including termination. AB deliberately lied to Bucs when submitting the fake card. The Chiefs fired Hunter on the grounds of lying. The real loss will be AB's return. Regardless of his value as a receiver, he has lost the trust and respect of his teammates and coaches. It will prove to be poisonous in the playoffs.

NFL's Cleaver shyly said that Brown and the other two violated the NFL's rules on vaccination. Without where they said fake camera cards, this could lead to felony charges and Congress spying on NFL business. Therefore, we once again found that the NFL is as lazy as some of their players.

Why would people reasonably expect him to use the same standards when he enters a new job with the standards they will always use in the future?

After the bizarre extension of the whirlpool before he joined the team, he spent an almost flawless year, made a meaningful contribution to a SB winning season, and seems to have been a model roster member ever since. This seems to change the standard.

If anyone thinks he is the only player to do this, I have a cheap bridge to sell to you. Like Gruden, he is becoming a role model for what many people have done or are doing.

It is not certain whether NFL rules allow Tampa to fire him considering that he has already been punished. Can you punish a person twice without the NFLPA going crazy and screaming unfairly? ? ? ?

I really don’t know why anyone would be surprised that star players have separate rules and standards. Jimmy Johnson cut a backup LB after falling asleep in the meeting, he was honest about it. (I think it's John Roper). Someone asked Johnson what would happen if it were Irving, Smith or Aikman. He said "I will wake them up"

Tigerlilac said: On December 3, 2021, at 10:01 am, Bilicick abandoned Brown after a mess. Arians wrapped him in a swaddle and played stupid several times.

Aries speaks with a crossed tongue.

This is not true. BB is willing to handle the play for the haggard Brady. Cut the kraft paper into brown. This is why Brown publicly attacked Kraft afterwards, and also why Goodale extorted Kraft again and did what the cheating boss wanted.

Note the difference between Brady and Brown's treatment in NE and their treatment in TB.

Belichick helped Brady take him to NE.

In the next two decades, how many favors did Brady do for Belichick? There are a few, I think.

Don't be Aaron Rogers to our coach...! Your entire heritage and character are at stake here.​​​ Be a person who does what it says! ! !

This is different from Browns' previous actions. Vaccines are a very personal matter. Although what he did was stupid, it was different from the behavior that got him into trouble before.

Arians will not do anything. He knew he needed AB. In the end SB proved this point.

They will not release him because he will eventually appear in the Packers, Bills, Patriots, Chiefs, Cardinals, Rams, Cowboys, Chargers or Ravens and they will have to watch them. A team won the Super Bowl with him.

We all know that in the NFL, talent is better than assholes. If you have enough advantage on the field, you can almost escape any punishment.

steeelfann0155 said: At 11:43 AM on December 3, 2021 AB did not mess up. He is fighting against tyranny. This was imposed on him, as did Rogers and Cousins, and no one else would endure a great reset.

He does not need to be vaccinated. Fight back without being drugged and follow the agreement. Instead, he committed a federal crime.

Here is a group of pouting babies. This has nothing to do with Tom Brady. If you want to bring him into this discussion, he carefully selected Gronk, Fournett and Brown to play with him last season. All these players scored in the Super Bowl LV. You better believe that the greatest quarterback of all time is hosting this show in Tampa. Moreover, there is nothing wrong with this.

Most importantly, everyone knows that AB will be the decisive force in the playoffs, with multiple touchdowns. If they want to achieve this goal again, he will be the reason for them to advance and win. This is what they (or any other team you are "angry" about) care about.

When you are in the category of the top 10% on the court, most of the time everyone looks in the other direction.

Tompa will not let this happen.

Lost respect for Tom Brady. Obviously, this man doesn't care about the character around him. It is shameful to require management to sign a well-known garbage bag like this man. _____________

Over the years, this has been obvious to many of us outside of the Pats Fan Echo Room. But we are just "haters". The reality is that this guy is the greatest athlete in history and the scariest person in history. Over the years, many others have proven that you don’t need to be the second to be the first.

I love all these self-righteous people, they say "sue" him. Where is the evidence? Sooo...Some disgruntled former employees said that he had obtained a fake vax card. Ok...Where is it? I think even if they own it, it is not in the best interest of the team or the league to hand it over to the authorities.

buffalo69 said: Isn't it easier to get vaccinated at 10:01 am on December 3, 2021 than to get a fake vaccination card? ———

certainly. Brown obviously does not want to be vaccinated, and prefers to forge a card instead of any negative effects of not being vaccinated that he sees, that is, additional agreements, answering questions about not being vaccinated, etc.

"The reality is that this guy is the greatest athlete in history and the scariest person in history. Over the years, many others have proven that you don't need to be the second to be the first." Tears for me Chenghe. Brady never lied about being vaccinated, threw his teammates under the bus after losing, never talked about his wins or losses, or violated any laws. For the long list of other players still playing today, this is not the case.

Minime said: There is nothing to do at 10:59 AM on December 3, 2021. ————————————————————————————————————- Submit forged documents to your employer. When they find out, tell them it's nothing. Let us know how it turns out.

Remember when AB is looked up and respected instead of a clown

AB did not violate the law. He did some shocking things, and it was up to the owner of the team to decide what was appropriate. We should never get clues from the NFL as a whole (an entertainment entity) on how we should behave in this new paradigm. Because of his clichés, I rarely agree with the author's point of view, but this time he put forward a good point, even though he dismissed it.

Yes, Ricky Williams was almost kicked out of the NFL for smoking marijuana. Antonio Brown committed a federal crime that put his colleagues at risk of contracting a potentially fatal disease and was suspended for three games. It's great to see that the NFL still has their priorities.

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